The crazy stuff I can't post anyplace else
We get it. The Catholic Church opposes birth control. Ergo, being the faithful Catholic that you are, you also oppose it, no matter how badly it is needed and how unconscionable it is to tell people struggling to raise the children that they do have that they must have even more. We get it. That's just the way you are.
It is more than that- I am actively accusing first world rich people of using population control to take wealth away from the third world, thus causing people to struggle economically to begin with- and enable more of that wealth centralization by a form of slow genocide.
"using population control to take wealth away from the third world".What wealth? You can't be serious. You think Bill and Melinda Gates are trying to help control population growth among the poor so they can acquire more wealth with less people vying for it? You don't think they are trying to help women lift themselves out of poverty by helping them plan their families? Your kind of thinking typifies how Catholicism is a real impediment to progress.
I am absolutely certain of it that their "trying to help women lift themselves out of poverty" consists entirely of keeping the next generation of the poor from being born- and that their only reason for wanting those women out of poverty to begin with is to create consumers who will spend their money on product rather than family.
That is just the most ridiculous line of thinking I have ever heard. Sure they don't want poor women to have so many kids. Where will they get the money to buy Xbox if they have too many mouths to feed? Creepy Catholic logic.
Yep, it's creepy to want more people in the world, isn't it? I think I'd rather be that kind of a creep, than the kind who thinks we can eliminate poverty with a genocide of the poor.
"Yep, it's creepy to want more people in the world, isn't it? "For people who can't afford to have any more kids, yes it is creepy. Not as creepy as your use of the word "genocide" in a discussion about birth control, though. That is really creepy.
THAT part should be creepy. We should be avoiding telling people that they shouldn't exist, which is what the pro-family-planning side does.I should know, I've been told repeatedly that I'm not good enough for your brave new world and neither are my wife and son.Eugenics is creepy. And it should be creepy.
Birth control is not about anyone being good enough. It is about avoiding unwanted pregnancies. Some of the arguments against it are creepy.
Birth control is avoiding the responsibility to create the next generation for material gain alone.The message it sends is that some people aren't good enough to be in the world with you- and those some people are your own kids. That message spreads quite quickly to any parent with special needs children- who of course, are likely to spend more than they will earn in a lifetime, that in a world of materialism, they don't deserve to exist.But of course, as a believer in euthanasia, you have repeatedly made very clear that the only value of a human life is only productive capacity; I'm just pointing out that some of us actually value human life beyond that.
The very idea of an unwanted pregnancy is in and of itself an insult of the highest order to somebody like me. How incredibly selfish and materialistic do you have to be to NOT want a pregnancy?It doesn't matter if you have to shelter your 10 kids in cardboard shacks- the poor deserve to live also.
Birth control is not aimed at people with special needs. It is a decision that a couple, or a woman alone, would make that would allow them to enjoy sex without worrying about unwanted pregnancies. If people with special needs children take issue with that then that is their problem. No one is doing anything to them. It is none of their business. No one is questioning anyone's right to exist. No one is being denied life. If you don't exist, how can you be denied anything. What do you think that there are people waiting to be born?
"It doesn't matter if you have to shelter your 10 kids in cardboard shacks- the poor deserve to live also."That's just an incredibly heartless point of view. You really think that the poor are being mistreated by being given access to birth control? How backwards can you get?
"Birth control is not aimed at people with special needs"Not according to Margaret Sanger, whom you birth control advocates worship." No one is questioning anyone's right to exist."Don't try to lie Bill, you're not good at it."That's just an incredibly heartless point of view. You really think that the poor are being mistreated by being given access to birth control? How backwards can you get?"It is you who are backwards, insisting that the poor have no right to exist at all, just like Margaret Sanger did. You Family Planning folks are just naked greed, no compassion at all.
I never said the poor have no right to exist. They have a right not to be poor.
No, if you're for family planning, contraception, and abortion, you are directly saying that the poor have no right to exist.If you were saying they don't have a right to be poor, you'd be for ending this farce of an economic system and making sure men were responsible instead of using contraception to avoid responsibility.
I get it. You don't like people using contraceptives. Get over it.
Nope, not that easy. Because you see, each fewer person on this planet robs from my child, in nearly imperceptible ways.
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