Strange Notions is a new Disqus site run by Brandon Vogt to try to discuss Rationality and Reason with Athiests. He may well succeed with some, but there is one subset of atheism he will never succeed with. On Richard Dawkin's spectrum of theistic probability , those with a score 6 and above often fall into something I term fundamentalist atheism. Many of them come from fundamentalist Christian backgrounds, if not in their generation, then within three generations of their recent past. Fundamentalist Atheism starts with the assumption that the supernatural doesn't exist and that the natural world is all there is, and runs with it, denying any data to the contrary. I've always been one to consider the natural to be a subset of the supernatural- that is the only real difference between the natural and the supernatural to me is the line of the shared scientific knowledge of mankind. A scientist, therefore, if he is to learn anything new about the universe, needs to have h...
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What wealth? You can't be serious. You think Bill and Melinda Gates are trying to help control population growth among the poor so they can acquire more wealth with less people vying for it? You don't think they are trying to help women lift themselves out of poverty by helping them plan their families? Your kind of thinking typifies how Catholicism is a real impediment to progress.
I think I'd rather be that kind of a creep, than the kind who thinks we can eliminate poverty with a genocide of the poor.
For people who can't afford to have any more kids, yes it is creepy. Not as creepy as your use of the word "genocide" in a discussion about birth control, though. That is really creepy.
I should know, I've been told repeatedly that I'm not good enough for your brave new world and neither are my wife and son.
Eugenics is creepy. And it should be creepy.
The message it sends is that some people aren't good enough to be in the world with you- and those some people are your own kids. That message spreads quite quickly to any parent with special needs children- who of course, are likely to spend more than they will earn in a lifetime, that in a world of materialism, they don't deserve to exist.
But of course, as a believer in euthanasia, you have repeatedly made very clear that the only value of a human life is only productive capacity; I'm just pointing out that some of us actually value human life beyond that.
It doesn't matter if you have to shelter your 10 kids in cardboard shacks- the poor deserve to live also.
That's just an incredibly heartless point of view. You really think that the poor are being mistreated by being given access to birth control? How backwards can you get?
Not according to Margaret Sanger, whom you birth control advocates worship.
" No one is questioning anyone's right to exist."
Don't try to lie Bill, you're not good at it.
"That's just an incredibly heartless point of view. You really think that the poor are being mistreated by being given access to birth control? How backwards can you get?"
It is you who are backwards, insisting that the poor have no right to exist at all, just like Margaret Sanger did. You Family Planning folks are just naked greed, no compassion at all.
If you were saying they don't have a right to be poor, you'd be for ending this farce of an economic system and making sure men were responsible instead of using contraception to avoid responsibility.