Yes, liberals value family , but not enough to recognize that a broken family is a tragedy. Divorce is actually worse than death as far as the grieving process goes- especially when there are children, custody battles, parental support, and alimony involved. And homosexuals raising children? That is tragic, not something to be celebrated. Maybe if we'd *recognize* that a broken family is a tragedy we would be more willing to say, pay taxes for WIC so that the single mother working a minimum wage job actually has the ability to choose life. Maybe we'd have more men willing to stick around and help raise the children they cause because the condom broke while they were stupidly using sex only for recreation. Maybe, just maybe, we'd be raising men instead of a generation of cowardly wimps who choose homosexuality and suicide over real life. Suffering and tragedy is valuable- but only if we recognize that it exists.
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What wealth? You can't be serious. You think Bill and Melinda Gates are trying to help control population growth among the poor so they can acquire more wealth with less people vying for it? You don't think they are trying to help women lift themselves out of poverty by helping them plan their families? Your kind of thinking typifies how Catholicism is a real impediment to progress.
I think I'd rather be that kind of a creep, than the kind who thinks we can eliminate poverty with a genocide of the poor.
For people who can't afford to have any more kids, yes it is creepy. Not as creepy as your use of the word "genocide" in a discussion about birth control, though. That is really creepy.
I should know, I've been told repeatedly that I'm not good enough for your brave new world and neither are my wife and son.
Eugenics is creepy. And it should be creepy.
The message it sends is that some people aren't good enough to be in the world with you- and those some people are your own kids. That message spreads quite quickly to any parent with special needs children- who of course, are likely to spend more than they will earn in a lifetime, that in a world of materialism, they don't deserve to exist.
But of course, as a believer in euthanasia, you have repeatedly made very clear that the only value of a human life is only productive capacity; I'm just pointing out that some of us actually value human life beyond that.
It doesn't matter if you have to shelter your 10 kids in cardboard shacks- the poor deserve to live also.
That's just an incredibly heartless point of view. You really think that the poor are being mistreated by being given access to birth control? How backwards can you get?
Not according to Margaret Sanger, whom you birth control advocates worship.
" No one is questioning anyone's right to exist."
Don't try to lie Bill, you're not good at it.
"That's just an incredibly heartless point of view. You really think that the poor are being mistreated by being given access to birth control? How backwards can you get?"
It is you who are backwards, insisting that the poor have no right to exist at all, just like Margaret Sanger did. You Family Planning folks are just naked greed, no compassion at all.
If you were saying they don't have a right to be poor, you'd be for ending this farce of an economic system and making sure men were responsible instead of using contraception to avoid responsibility.