8 arguments I really never want to hear again

40 YEARS AFTER ROE V. WADE, PRO-ABORTION ARGUMENTS ARE STILL ILLOGICAL | The Bob Dutko Blog:
These 8 arguments have been debunked so many times, in so many different forums, over the last 40 years that I don't really understand why *anybody* bothers to bring them up anymore.

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Theodore M. Seeber said…
Only one argument is necessary. No one should ever be allowed force a woman to carry and give birth to a child against her will. End if discussion.
July 31, 2013 at 2:59 PM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
That's like saying nobody should ever be allowed to stop a mass murderer, because it is against their will not to murder people. Complete fail, Bill.
July 31, 2013 at 5:41 PM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
No. I'm sorry. It is not like that at all. That is a ridiculous analogy and an insult to women who choose to terminate their pregnancies, as is their right. A right that people like you will never be able to take away.
July 31, 2013 at 6:23 PM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
Women who "choose" to murder their children, inside or outside of the womb, deserve what they get.
August 1, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
You suffer from a lack of empathy for people like gays and women who resort to abortion or contraception to terminate or prevent unwanted pregnancies. Add people who are terminally ill and want to die on their own terms.

Trying to understand that everyone isn't like you and may be in situations that require them to do things that you call "sins" just isn't a part of your people skills.
August 2, 2013 at 3:38 AM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
I suffer from a lack of empathy for everybody. In fact, I suspect that empathy is just a lie that neurotypicals tell themselves- all the evidence I have see suggests that it does not really exist, it is just projection of one's own emotional state onto somebody else.


Right and wrong exist whether you believe in the concept or not, Bill. Just because YOU want to invent this new idea that things can be wrong without being sins (when sin means, something you did wrong, no need for God for you to sin) does not mean you can force me to believe your new theology.
August 2, 2013 at 2:28 PM
Unknown said…
" it is just projection of one's own emotional state onto somebody else."

It is feeling for others. You have all these feelings for the fetus but none for fully developed, living, breathing people. It's hypocritical.
August 2, 2013 at 7:50 PM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
You don't have telepathy Bill. You have NO idea how others feel at all, you're just guessing at best, and in my experience, neurotypicals aren't even good at guessing. They're wrong about their vaulted empathy far more often than they are right, and usually just take actions to make the situation worse.

Euthanasia and abortion are prime examples- death is worse than any level of suffering. But to make themselves "feel" better, they're willing to kill the suffering rather than actually help.

Objectively, the attempt to avoid suffering by death is always wrong, since you don't like those other words. You're not helping, you are hurting.
August 3, 2013 at 7:16 AM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
Of course things can be wrong without meeting your criteria for being sins. When you do something wrong, your belief is that you have offended the Creator of the universe. Somehow, this imaginary Creator must forgive you for doing something wrong. To get this to happen, you tell a priest what you have done and he is somehow empowered to forgive you and you can act as if it never happened. When I do something wrong, I try to make it up to whomever I might have offended. If I didn't offend anyone, then I just try to learn from the experience and resolve not to do it again. The word "sin" never comes to mind and I don't look for forgiveness except from the person I might have offended if there is one.
August 5, 2013 at 5:36 AM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
I don't know where you got the impression that "sin" is equal to "offending the creator of the universe". Sin to me is going against reality, virtue is going with reality. Forgiveness is just the way to get rid of guilt. There is no need to talk to a priest for every sin, only those that are "mortal"- that is, those that have taken over your life. And have you EVER gone to confession and been told you can "act as if it never happened"? I sure haven't. I'm given penance- ways to do better.

"When I do something wrong, I try to make it up to whomever I might have offended."

In that case, you've failed.

"The word "sin" never comes to mind and I don't look for forgiveness except from the person I might have offended if there is one."



The person you've offended most when you do wrong isn't other people, and it isn't God. It is yourself.
August 5, 2013 at 8:02 AM
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