A plethora of links

To the type of homosexuals that certain commenters here claim shouldn't exist.

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Unknown said…
Believe it or not, there are homosexuals who are afraid to disagree with Church teaching. They would just as soon agree that their sexual desires are disordered and sinful and try to suppress them as best they can and run off to confession when they can't. That's their choice. They don't have to feel that way but they have probably been brainwashed into believing that what they feel is wrong and to be ashamed.
June 25, 2013 at 8:59 AM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
I'm well aware of Courage (on the right wing) and Dignity (on the left wing), Bill. But I note that in these links are contained athiests who are against gay marriage, feminist lesbians (who most certainly do NOT agree with Catholic teaching) who are against gay marriage, a liberal male homosexual couple from your home state who just want to be DINKs who see no purpose in marriage beyond "the legal stuff", and even one calling himself a "radical queer" who doesn't want civil marriage because of the way heterosexuals have screwed it up.



So no, it isn't just about being afraid to disagree with Church Teaching. It is about homosexuals being *silenced* by the politically correct folks.
June 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Unknown said…
"one calling himself a "radical queer" who doesn't want civil marriage because of the way heterosexuals have screwed it up."

When I was getting married, I couldn't care less that other people had screwed marriage up. I don't see the logic in opposing gay marriage because marriage has been screwed up by heterosexuals. Who cares? It is only screwed up for those who screw it up not for the ones happily married.
June 26, 2013 at 3:56 AM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
There are now two generations full of Americans who have absolutely NO experience of "happily married" or even "unhappily married".

As one crabber on Deadliest Catch put it last night "I saw my father go through four divorces, with four different women, and has four children one with each woman. I don't want that for myself".

Huge numbers of my generation have been damaged greatly by divorce to the point of never wanting to be married at all.
June 26, 2013 at 8:58 AM
Unknown said…
I totally understand that. Irrelevant to whether or not gays should be allowed to marry. Don't penalize them for the mistakes made by heterosexuals.
June 26, 2013 at 9:03 AM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
Eliminating civil marriage isn't a penalty. It is ending a farce that never was good for anybody.

There is no conceivable reason, outside of creating stable families for the purpose of procreation, that the state belongs in anybody's bedroom at all.

Sacramental marriage is already about procreation, or should be. Miracles do happen, I suppose, but I don't see why a couple that loves each other can't just live together regardless of what the Church says.
June 26, 2013 at 4:05 PM
Unknown said…
"I don't see why a couple that loves each other can't just live together regardless of what the Church says."

Well, I agree that they could. But why should they have to? Why can't people who love each other just get married, church or no church, hetero or homo?
June 27, 2013 at 3:07 AM
Theodore M. Seeber said…
Because that's not what marriage is.
June 27, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Unknown said…
It's really not your call. The definition of marriage as only being between a man and a woman is going to be struck down by the courts for every state as couples sue to marry there. Prop 8 is not any different than laws in other states that have the same definition. They all infringe on the rights of gays and are therefore unconstitutional.
July 1, 2013 at 7:36 AM
Unknown said…
Your attitude toward gays is even worse than that of the Catholic Church, which is pretty bad in itself.
July 2, 2013 at 9:38 AM
Unknown said…
"My attitude towards gays has been formed by their attitude towards me."

I can't blame them.
July 3, 2013 at 3:18 AM
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