Yes, liberals value family , but not enough to recognize that a broken family is a tragedy. Divorce is actually worse than death as far as the grieving process goes- especially when there are children, custody battles, parental support, and alimony involved. And homosexuals raising children? That is tragic, not something to be celebrated. Maybe if we'd *recognize* that a broken family is a tragedy we would be more willing to say, pay taxes for WIC so that the single mother working a minimum wage job actually has the ability to choose life. Maybe we'd have more men willing to stick around and help raise the children they cause because the condom broke while they were stupidly using sex only for recreation. Maybe, just maybe, we'd be raising men instead of a generation of cowardly wimps who choose homosexuality and suicide over real life. Suffering and tragedy is valuable- but only if we recognize that it exists.
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When being heterosexual becomes illegal, it will be too late to cry persecution.
You say that facetiously but I can see some truth to the way you are now. I think I would have liked you better in one of your past lives. The atheist one was probably you at your best and you just don't see it because you have drank the Kool-Aid.
I think people see that darker side all the time.
"..tolerance is just another name for negligent indifference and hate."
Wait a minute. Tolerance is not a good thing? You have a sick twisted attitude toward our modern world. Tolerance exudes love, not hate? What's the matter with you?
Tolerance is hatred- of a very dark sort. Love is grabbing the man before he falls off the cliff; tolerance is saying that he must want to run off the cliff and thus we shouldn't interfere.
Always bet on Original Sin- even if the fall never happened, the disobedience is universal. Vows are hard, cheating is easy; cowardice is rampant.
I'm going to give this a rest and focus on my work.
Of course, part of this comes from my experience with homosexuality- which has almost always been one partner having some level of control over the other, almost NEVER a truly equal partnership.
And then of course there is also the religious side, which says that if you love somebody of the same gender you *won't* force them into homosexual acts that could damage their bodies and do eternal damage to their souls.
Yes. That is the religious side. That is why religion isn't necessarily a good thing. Religiously induced homophobia is a major problem in this world.
If I was exposed to an STD, I would rather stay celibate than expose my wife. Homosexuals do not do that.
Only those exposing their partners to the risk. Not all homosexuals in general. You can't condemn all homosexual behavior just because a small percentage of it is risky.
Being an active homosexual is as much a method of suicide as my own gluttony.
You obviously are not an expert on human sexuality if you consider all homosexual activities to be risky. Some obviously are not.
One cannot support active homosexuality if one loves the same sex attracted person.
Therein lies the problem. What they need is your acceptance of their lifestyle and you can't give it, supposedly out of concern for their own well being but really because your faith won't allow you to. So you look for other reasons not to. The risk of STDs comes to your rescue. You can go with that and not have to make excuses for the institutional homophobia of the Catholic Church.
They need lies? I reject that completely.
Nobody needs "acceptance of their lifestyle", what they need is TRUTH. No more lies, please, Bill.
I rejected Catholic Church teaching on this subject until March 2004. It was only after that I began to learn the *scientific* truth around this subject- and for you to ignore it is irrational and showing hatred for homosexuals.
I am the one promoting inclusion (through Courage, Dignity, and civil unions) and telling the homosexuals the truth about the risks and dangers of their lifestyle instead of merely "accepting" it.
Acceptance of harm is promotion of harm.
So you say. I am not aware of any studies supporting claims that gay marriage will be damaging and destructive to couples.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/basics/
or this?
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610
or this?
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000580
Three studies showing homosexuality either *is* damaging and destructive (to the homosexuals themselves) or *can be* damaging and destructive (due to a severe lack of data on the subject thanks to the idea that 10% of America is homosexual being a lie, it is really more around 2%).