Father claims 15 year old girl is capable of consent in Lesbian Rape Case
Father claims 15 year old girl from another family is capable of consent:
I'm beginning to really like the change in Florida's government. First they stop handing out welfare checks to junkies. Now they are treating Lesbians under the same rules as Heterosexuals, gasp, what a concept! Don't sign this petition unless you are FOR statutory rape of younger girls by predatory lesbians.
How many 18 year old boys have been prosecuted for having sex with 16 year old women under "minors can't give consent"? Special treatment for lesbians? Please, no.
I'm beginning to really like the change in Florida's government. First they stop handing out welfare checks to junkies. Now they are treating Lesbians under the same rules as Heterosexuals, gasp, what a concept! Don't sign this petition unless you are FOR statutory rape of younger girls by predatory lesbians.
How many 18 year old boys have been prosecuted for having sex with 16 year old women under "minors can't give consent"? Special treatment for lesbians? Please, no.
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You're a true blue, dyed in the wool, bonified gay basher and hater. You actually enjoy seeing this girl's life ruined, don't you. It really shows a sinister dark side masquerading as religion.
I've been against this irrational definition of consent since I was a 15 year old myself, but as long as we have it, we can't go making exceptions for lesbians merely because they are lesbians.
For you to label that as hatred, just shows that it is YOU who have been drinking the heterophobic Kool Aid.
Basically, the issue is this. If a heterosexual girl at age 15 can't consent, why can a lesbian girl at 15 consent?
Interested- sure. I was once accused of statutory rape in similar circumstances, and in high school I was almost the victim of predatory gays (No need for cops in my case, a well placed groin shot did the trick).
It is ridiculous to claim on one hand that homosexuals need equality in civil unions with heterosexuals (as I still do- I want Oregon's current marriage laws to be changed to no state recognition of marriage at all, and civil unions open to everybody) and then turn around and demand that homosexuals need inequality in rape laws.
I would point out that if this girl was an 18 year old seminary student, you'd be screaming to high heaven to get him removed from seminary and sentenced to some deep dark dungeon (as would I).
In my state, this is considered child abuse, and I have many heterosexual friends who ran afoul of it and are now lifelong registered sex offenders because of it. Only boys can be charged in Oregon however, the law does not recognize female aggression heterosexual or homosexual.
My generation was warned. I remember, at age 16, a school assembly on the topic. Did about as much good as those Church youth group lectures, sadly.
I have had many internet discussions on the topic since, including one who claimed he "pretty much lost interest" after age 18. I wish I could go back and show him a picture of my son's friend, who just celebrated her 11th birthday and is more developed physically than most 17 year olds I know.
There is a reason girls under the age of 18 are called "jailbait" in porn circles. The interesting part of this case, which I would celebrate, is treating homosexuals equally under the law. I do not believe I have heard of any state doing so before.
Yes. This makes you happy. Try not to gloat.
Thanks for the legal information. It was probably legal in Massachusetts (what isn't).
I thought you were against discrimination of gays. BTW, if I were you, I would find out what the laws are in your state now. Anderson Cooper has made a series of Dateline episodes entrapping older men on Statutory Rape laws by inviting them to come party with the teenagers over the Internet- usually getting them to come to a house where state troopers are waiting to arrest them.
There is such a thing as companion Romeo and Juliet Laws, but they are usually limited to a three month spread in age, not several years or several decades.
You may be a rapist because she was under 18, but only if she was "Chaste" before she met you. Apparently Massachusetts rape laws were written by the same idiots who write secular abstinence sex ed books- if a girl is not a virgin it is ok to rape her.
I don't need to be concerned about such matters. Just because I am an atheist that doesn't mean I lack morals. Yes, they happen to have been instilled in me by Catholics but I would probably have similar values had they not.
Sure there is, Ted. Sure there is. Why don't you see if you can get pagansister to participate. She'd get a kick out of that statement.
There is no love in a tolerant society, only entrapment.
And most people try to do what is right. Yes. Some people abuse freedom. But, overall, it is a wonderful thing and should be enjoyed not stifled.
Yes, they are free, but far more harm comes from the abuse of freedom than good. The homelessness caused by the freedom of the right to abuse through usury, the genocide caused by freedom on the left, is overwhelming. Let people be free, and both JP Morgan Chase and Kermit Gosnell become inevitable.
The last 40 years especially have proven that mankind is incapable of using freedom responsibly.
This is why I have grave doubts about going 4th degree, in a system guaranteed to produce evil no matter what we do, how can I be patriotic?
You really are seeing the glass as half empty. I am awed at how far the human race has advanced since I graduated from college. Overall, freedom has been a good thing, not a bad thing. Look at events like the Olympics and the Boston Marathon and how the forces of oppression can never overcome the human spirit.
And you would really enjoy the fourth degree. Without giving too much of it away, it has more to do with the contribution of Catholics to this country than how great this country is. I went to an exemplefication last weekend and I thought it was more for people like you than for me. It would be a good thing for you to commit to because it is all about this country needing to put God first. One nation under God.
I look at the Boston Marathon Bombing and the anger of the Islamic Fundamentalists against, well, the entire rest of the world as being *caused* by freedom. Hidden in their anger are very just causes- far too many European and American countries have tried to "liberate" the Middle East over the last 300 years; is it any wonder that they are a bit suspicious of our brand of freedom? The sad thing is that they seem to be as irrational as the vision of Allah that they worship- if your primary methodology is the suicide attack, then like Japan in 1943, you're going to quickly run out of competent soldiers. But nothing is more free than the Sola Jihad of the Muwahiddun- just one man and his vision of God, changing the world, or at least the families of everybody he can blow up.
http://www.catholiccrossreference.com/catechism/#!/search/1734-1737
But one nation under God, that's an interesting idea.
Yes. I believe you are right. They hate seeing us enjoy our lives while they live their delusion. But they have no chance of defeating us. Freedom will prevail.
The thing that the Gates of Hell will not prevail against is Freedom.
Pope John Paul II warned W that invading Iraq was an unjust war that would just cause more violence. Invading Afghanistan has also been an unjust war.
I still think we could have done better skipping the invasions and dropping millions of MREs and propaganda instead. Kills nobody, feeds the hungry, and is more in keeping with Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness- for all, not just for the elite.
You lack compassion for certain groups; due to the autism I lack empathy for everybody.
I was away today- our yearly trip up the Columbia Gorge to family gravesites in Hood River and Lyle.
On one hand, I feel she should not be punished to such an extreme as the law calls for. On the other hand, I think she is being defiant and trying to be a test case. Why would she or her girlfriend tell anyone the details of what they did in the girls bathroom? Wouldn't she want to keep what was done in private private?
I think expulsion is a more appropriate punishment along with probation. Felony charges seem a bit extreme for two girls experimenting with sex.
This generation is far more open about their experimenting than yours or mine, a consequence of the death of privacy is indeed the dramatization of private affairs.
Got a link? I have not been paying any attention to the case.
I couldn't find the TV12 news footage again. It's somewhere on Google.
I was ok with the offer for plea bargain that she turned down. She will likely benefit from the publicity.
The Steubenville Rapists did deserve the full brunt of the law. They got off lightly. I don't see why Kate shouldn't be the same.