tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post996662552745980068..comments2023-11-03T03:38:18.095-07:00Comments on Outside The Asylum: Terry Pratchet and Pope John Paul IITheodore M. Seeberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-91998932885338286002014-03-06T10:58:58.623-08:002014-03-06T10:58:58.623-08:00I'm willing to cut some slack for those who ad...I'm willing to cut some slack for those who admit that their favorite sins ARE sins- we're all human, we're all sinners, we're all working on it.<br /><br />Otherwise, yes, I do agree. And it does a lot of damage to both those inside the faith and those outside of it when we have clerics who are neither one or the other and public about it.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-86592930971206180182014-03-06T10:01:25.109-08:002014-03-06T10:01:25.109-08:00Exactly. Or at least in this case. It gets worse...Exactly. Or at least in this case. It gets worse when you try to talk to some of the generation that doubts that the church's truth is "reality" even when they claim to follow the Church. Then you get the articles from America magazine wondering if women should be priests, if contraception is allowable why not gay marriage, and the like.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-70506676177329530342014-03-06T08:34:08.386-08:002014-03-06T08:34:08.386-08:00Heterodox speculation. That sounds serious. How ca...Heterodox speculation. That sounds serious. How can you argue with an atheist who knows the orthodox version of your faith and tell him that the God he doesn't believe in is not the God you believe either? By refuting the God that the atheist identifies as the Christian God based on stated beliefs by the Church, you would automatically be delving into heterodox speculation. You can't win either way. The only thing you can do is say that you do believe in the God that the atheist identifies as the God he doesn't believe in?Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-35420327078082689132014-03-06T08:18:59.464-08:002014-03-06T08:18:59.464-08:00Seem to be. But they recently added a draconian c...Seem to be. But they recently added a draconian commenting policy which keeps the threads from getting more interesting and allows no room for dissent or speculation on the idea that the Jesuit method has, in fact, let to heterodox speculation.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-54852608172318322422014-03-06T04:16:36.148-08:002014-03-06T04:16:36.148-08:00Wow. I never knew about The Jesuit Post. Are the t...Wow. I never knew about The Jesuit Post. Are the threads always this interesting?Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-26267487213539154432014-03-05T08:13:35.506-08:002014-03-05T08:13:35.506-08:00Don't tell me. Follow the link and tell the J...Don't tell me. Follow the link and tell the Jesuits. I'd be surprised if your post stays up an hour. They're too busy "plus signing" their own sins out of existence to understand your point (which, oddly enough, I agree with).Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-33955533318260887522014-03-05T06:55:40.216-08:002014-03-05T06:55:40.216-08:00Responses like "I don't believe in that G...Responses like "I don't believe in that God either" are both lame and disingenuous. The only thing that puts me at odds with the New Atheists is their inability to refute the concept of intelligent design when it is presented without speculation as to who the designer is. The mistake is to say that it is the Judeo-Christian God. That brings on ridicule and derision as well it should. What I know is that there are almost infinite examples of design in the Cosmos, Nature, Life, whatever. Design requires a designer. We don't know much about the designer. On one extreme, people deny that there is a design or a designer. On the other extreme, God is identified as the designer. I say there is a designer and I call it Nature.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.com