tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post3356942891225175109..comments2023-11-03T03:38:18.095-07:00Comments on Outside The Asylum: Just Discrimination vs Unjust DiscriminationTheodore M. Seeberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-17618232380765874762013-08-06T10:50:02.192-07:002013-08-06T10:50:02.192-07:00There is only one reality. I refuse to acknowledg...There is only one reality. I refuse to acknowledge any other reality. This blog is not to "exchange opinions with others", this blog is "The crazy stuff I can't post anyplace else" (see top of screen).Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-78615925768825454822013-08-06T03:11:45.504-07:002013-08-06T03:11:45.504-07:00As for the Church teaching anyone anything, it sho...As for the Church teaching anyone anything, it should provide its guidance to those who seek it. It should not try to impose its values on those who don't. <br /><br />You blog in order to exchange opinions with others. I am not overstepping my bounds by stating my opinions on your site or anyone else's. <br /><br />What you call "lies and propaganda" I call the truth and visa versa. We make a complementary pair. It would be boring corresponding with someone who agrees with everything I say.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-6257321247586898322013-08-05T17:43:43.621-07:002013-08-05T17:43:43.621-07:00Those two paragraphs are completely incompatible w...Those two paragraphs are completely incompatible with one another. Either the Church has the right to teach Truth or it doesn't.<br /><br />And YOU have stepped out of bounds repeatedly when trying to control my thoughts with your propaganda and lies. How is that any different at all?Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-58787249286969204012013-08-04T05:02:03.321-07:002013-08-04T05:02:03.321-07:00I don't object to how the Church defines any o...I don't object to how the Church defines any of its sacraments, including Marriage. The Church can define its sacraments any way it wants. <br /><br />I will state my objection as clearly as I can. I object to the Church condemning something that is none of the Church's business. The Church exists to provide guidance to those who seek guidance from it. People like you. That's it. It oversteps its bounds when it comments on the moral character of those who do not seek its guidance. Period.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-8538955791656066602013-08-03T20:13:22.296-07:002013-08-03T20:13:22.296-07:00And thus, you object to how the church defines the...And thus, you object to how the church defines the Sacrament of Marriage, as conjugal rather than consensual.<br /><br /><br />THAT is what this is about. It has already happened in other countries. First they redefine marriage, then they sue the churches into poverty.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-66818527162333523522013-08-03T14:48:22.353-07:002013-08-03T14:48:22.353-07:00"What we are discussing is whether the church..."What we are discussing is whether the church should be forced to become a walled abbey away from society, merely because some people think it should be forced to re-define the sacraments."<br /><br />That is not what we are discussing. No one cares about your sacraments. You can define them any way you want. We are discussing institutional discrimination against gays promoted by the Catholic Church.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-88534876345707349662013-08-03T09:57:12.137-07:002013-08-03T09:57:12.137-07:00What we are discussing is whether the church shoul...What we are discussing is whether the church should be forced to become a walled abbey away from society, merely because some people think it should be forced to re-define the sacraments.<br /><br /><br />I say that the sacraments are based on a much better understanding of human sexuality than modern psychology possesses- one that is more in keeping with the physical biological reality of gender- and thus, that is actually better for people who struggle with the identity of their gender in any variety of ways.<br /><br /><br />We are also discussing the personal idea of gender itself- whether homosexuality actually exists outside of the brain. At all. I still consider it a mental illness no different than my own Asperger's- I had to learn to break my habits regarding pornography and my fetishes to have a healthy marriage, they should have to give up their fantasies about the same gender to have a healthy marriage.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-61438813116846799342013-08-03T08:45:09.845-07:002013-08-03T08:45:09.845-07:00If you don't care what the laws say, then why ...If you don't care what the laws say, then why are we even having this conversation? Aren't we discussing whether gay marriage should be legal? If the law allows it, who are you to say it shouldn't?Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-26257094257016138662013-08-03T07:52:55.152-07:002013-08-03T07:52:55.152-07:00I don't care what the laws say. I am asking y...I don't care what the laws say. I am asking you a direct question: Does physical gender exist?Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-79370658428979794922013-07-31T16:34:07.688-07:002013-07-31T16:34:07.688-07:00"You can start by proving that a sperm and a ..."You can start by proving that a sperm and a sperm can generate a child."<br /><br />There is no law stating that marriages must produce children. That is a Catholic fetish. <br /><br />There is no law stating that a same sex couple cannot adopt and raise children. That is a Catholic taboo. <br /><br />There is no law prohibiting gays from teaching in public schools. That is a Catholic school issue. <br /><br />There are laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation for public housing, jobs, etc. The Catholic Church has no say in the making or enforcement of those laws.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-55088096141946994732013-07-31T07:18:28.501-07:002013-07-31T07:18:28.501-07:00Why? Don't just say that it isn't, PROVE ...Why? Don't just say that it isn't, PROVE that it isn't. <br /><br /><br />You can start by proving that a sperm and a sperm can generate a child.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8729840800201160730.post-36818333652841579132013-07-31T03:02:05.724-07:002013-07-31T03:02:05.724-07:00"Such things as the adoption of children, the..."Such things as the adoption of children, the employment of teachers, the housing needs of genuine families, landlords' legitimate concerns in screening potential tenants, for example, are often implicated."<br /><br />All good examples of areas where the Church considers discrimination against gays to be justified. Well, it isn't.Theodore M. Seeberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315945417122366201noreply@blogger.com